Session Start: Sat Nov 19 08:00:56 2005 Session Ident: #sevtrek [08:16] 12 First comp: Sourone and the Ring [08:16] *Keeps people away from her fudge with a knork* [08:16] Me likes them cookes, baked, scrambles, omelettised... [08:16] 7He had to eat 200,000 boxes of CEREAL to finally get it. [08:16] keep [08:16] cut [08:16] keep [08:16] I don't see these punchlines [08:16] cut [08:16] (That amount of cereal sure would make you cranky) [08:16] Got them now [08:16] keep [08:17] cut [08:17] Keep [08:17] But I think the "finally" should go [08:17] 3kept [08:17] 7Evil lord, world domination... do I have to connect the DOTS for you? [08:17] cut [08:17] cut [08:17] Cut [08:17] cut [08:18] cut [08:18] cut [08:18] cut [08:18] 4disconnected dots [08:18] 7Do you know what it's worth on EBAY?! [08:18] cut [08:18] neutral [08:18] cut [08:19] cut [08:19] Cut [08:19] cut [08:19] cut [08:19] 4nothing worth here [08:19] 7Evil Lord FASHION Rule #3: Bling-bling is a must. [08:19] cut [08:19] CUT [08:19] keep [08:19] cut [08:19] cut [08:19] cut [08:19] Cut, eww [08:19] cut [08:20] 4JS rule #1: bling-bling's a NO [08:20] 7No clue - I mean, did you see what it did to GOLLUM? [08:20] keep [08:20] cut [08:20] cut [08:20] :D nice one Guido [08:20] cut [08:20] cut [08:20] cut [08:20] keep [08:20] (yeah) [08:20] Cut [08:21] 4still clueless [08:21] *Starts decorating Guido with tacky jewellery* [08:21] 7He thinks his KEYS are on it. [08:21] cut [08:21] cut [08:21] cut [08:21] cut [08:21] Cut [08:21] cut [08:21] cut [08:21] Hmmm, puns note made from the unlightened words. Interresting [08:21] cut [08:21] 4clear cut [08:22] 7It's engraved with his LOCKER combination. [08:22] cut [08:22] keep [08:22] cut [08:22] cut [08:22] cut [08:22] cut [08:22] keep [08:22] 4cut [08:23] 7he already got a MATCHING necklace. [08:23] cut [08:23] Cut [08:23] cut [08:23] cut [08:23] cut [08:23] leep [08:23] cut [08:23] 4no match [08:24] 7He still thinks MOOD rings are cool. [08:24] cut [08:24] Cut [08:24] cut [08:24] keep [08:24] cut [08:24] cut [08:24] cut (seriously, who ever thought they were cool?) [08:24] cut [08:24] 4only one thinks this line is cool [08:24] Me. When I was 11 [08:24] HA [08:24] miguel - I did back when I was in primary school [08:25] 7NOTHING says bling-bling like a gold ring, dog! [08:25] cut [08:25] Well, that was in the seventies I recon. [08:25] cut [08:25] Cut [08:25] cut [08:25] keep [08:25] cut [08:25] cut [08:25] cut [08:25] I certainly wasn't 11 in the seventies :0P [08:25] ok, so primary school children think they're cool... any theories about Sauron's mental age? ;) [08:25] 4js rule #1 again ;) [08:26] the war for middle earth was just a temper tantrum? [08:26] Thû is another name for Sauron right? [08:26] *Runs* [08:26] 7It grants invisibility, promotes longevity, and looks good with any OUTFIT. [08:26] depends, does the mental age theory fit? *runs away* [08:26] keep [08:26] keep [08:26] It most certainly does :0D [08:26] *Hides behind you* [08:26] neutral [08:26] cut -- too long. had work pasting it into here :P [08:26] Cut [08:26] cut [08:26] cut [08:26] cut [08:27] emma, if i made a similar remark to you, you'd bite me [08:27] I would indeed [08:27] Seriously, why where these lines chosen ? [08:27] 4doesn't look good [08:27] Guido - just ask, I'll move ;) [08:27] 7"To SOURONE, with all love, mommy" [08:27] cut [08:27] cut [08:27] keep [08:27] cut [08:27] Cut [08:27] cut [08:27] cut [08:28] 4not loved [08:28] 7I have no idea... ooh, SPARKLY! [08:28] keep [08:28] keep [08:28] (but change to "shiny"? [08:28] keep shiny? [08:28] cut [08:28] cut [08:28] Yes, change to shiny ! [08:28] keep shiny ;) [08:28] SHINY! [08:28] keep [08:28] *Eyes goes wide* [08:28] sure, shiny sounds good [08:29] Keep [08:29] Shiiiiiiiiiiny [08:29] 3kept (shiny) [08:29] Same idea, more impact [08:29] 7it completes his WINTER ensemble [08:29] cut [08:29] cut [08:29] cut [08:29] cut [08:29] reminds me of a Buffy joke. They're looking at a glowing ball and Giles says "It's obviously mystical in origin". Willow says "how can you tell?" Giles: "Well, it's very shiny!" [08:29] cut [08:29] cut [08:29] keep [08:30] 3incomplete ensemble [08:30] i mean... 4incomplete ensemble (cut) [08:30] 7Evil rings are in this YEAR. [08:30] cut [08:30] keep [08:30] cut [08:30] cut [08:31] British audiences were treated to the... pleasure of an almost naked Anthony Stewart Head the other night [08:31] cut [08:31] neutral [08:31] Cut [08:31] cut [08:31] lottle britain? [08:31] Yeah [08:31] "dubious" ? [08:31] Rather him than Blair :0P [08:31] 4evil rings are out this year [08:32] 12Final mode, vote4 one of the following two lines: [08:32] He had to eat 200,000 boxes of CEREAL to finally get it. [08:32] I have no idea... ooh, SPARKLY! [08:32] vote4 sparkly (i mean shiny) [08:32] vote4 SPARKLY/SHINY [08:32] vote4 SHINY [08:32] vote4 shiny [08:32] vote4 shiny [08:32] vote4 shiny [08:32] vote4 shiny (how can I not?!) [08:33] vote4 cereal (a shocker I know!) [08:33] You should change the look of Gonedaft a bit to emphasis the oooh shiny part. [08:33] BTW: New Domino World Record just established: 4.155.476 [08:33] Doggy: maybe I'll tweak the mouth and eyes [08:33] Heeee! Our rival news programme just had problems and couldn't show the weather :0D So the presenter had to um and ah a quick recap of the top story "it has been shocking today, the story that..." [08:33] good call [08:33] 12Result: 3SPARKLY/SHINY: 712 -- 4CEREAL 1 [08:34] WOOOOOT ! [08:34] "just"? they gave the result 15 minutes ago! [08:34] what ??? I'm paying for a frigging delayed airing ?? [08:34] yup [08:34] That's it, want me money back :-) [08:35] what channel went live ? [08:35] You two are both watching people play dominoes? [08:35] 12Competetion 2: Klingoff Shakespeare [08:35] RTL Germany [08:35] I'm... not convinced I want to know either of you any more :0P [08:35] 7Apart from the BLOOD, murder and intrigue? [08:35] Right. Finger's aching, I'm tired, I need sleep, g'nght all! [08:35] *waves* [08:35] keep [08:35] * Whitestar8472 has quit IRC (Disintegrated: G'night) [08:35] bye [08:35] cut [08:35] keep [08:35] cut [08:36] emma: no. we were watching domino pieces fall from their own ;) [08:36] cut [08:36] cut [08:36] I gues Klingon literature would be very shakespear like. [08:36] I'm still not convinced I want to know either of you any more :0P [08:36] Keep [08:36] 4cut [08:36] Wah! [08:37] 7What Shakespeare? He's trying to remember his CABIN number. [08:37] cut [08:37] cut [08:37] keep [08:37] cut [08:37] Cut [08:37] cut [08:37] what happened to the line "at least he knows what 'wherefore' means"...? ;) [08:37] cut [08:37] ROFL [08:37] rotfl [08:37] That one should've kang say 2B or not 2B. [08:37] I was shocked not to see a reference to that on the news page Guido, yeah [08:38] 4that line won't be remembered [08:38] 7Everybody always DIES... [08:38] keep [08:38] keep [08:38] keep [08:38] keep [08:38] cut [08:39] Cut [08:39] keep [08:39] That's not Shakespeare, that's John Webster :0P [08:39] 3still alive. strongly [08:39] 7They're all a bunch of DRAMA queens. [08:39] cut [08:39] keep [08:40] *Has mental picture of a Klingon drama queen* [08:40] Cut [08:40] i feel another avatar coming up ?? :-)) [08:40] cut [08:40] *now has mental picture of Klingon drag queen* [08:40] blame DS! [08:41] *Gets blamed* [08:41] lol@ben [08:41] neutral [08:41] *mental pic of general chang in drag* [08:41] keep, btew [08:41] That would be nice avatar, but we already have Barf in drag. [08:41] has mental picture of klingon drag queen singing "dancing queen" [08:41] rofl [08:41] 4cut [08:42] 7With a NAME like Shake-Spear, it has to be klingoff! [08:42] cut [08:42] I think Wizzard wins... [08:42] cut [08:42] cut [08:42] Cut [08:42] *Has mental picture of Klingons doing YMCA, I don't know why. [08:42] cut [08:42] keep [08:42] cut [08:42] 4cut [08:43] 7A bunch of humans die. It's not ROCKET science. [08:43] cut [08:43] cut [08:43] cut [08:43] cut [08:43] I've SEEN Klingons do that during the German convention Fedcon [08:43] keep [08:43] Keep [08:43] keep [08:43] 7it's also not rocket science that this line it cut [08:44] *Has now got the YMCA klingons severely stuck in head* [08:44] 7In Klingoff culture, death SELLS [08:44] cut [08:44] cut [08:44] cut [08:44] cut [08:45] Cut [08:45] cut [08:45] keep [08:45] 4in our culture, this line didn't sell [08:45] 7They love talking to their enemy's SKULLS. [08:45] cut [08:45] keep [08:45] cut [08:45] cut [08:45] cut [08:46] keep [08:46] Cut [08:46] 4another cut [08:46] 7All the galaxy's a STAGE... [08:46] keep [08:46] Cut [08:47] BTW: Who's Jane Austen ? [08:47] cut [08:47] Although at least this is accurate to the quote :0P [08:47] keep [08:47] keep [08:47] Jane Austen wrote Pride and Prejudice [08:47] EofS: glad you approve [08:47] emma: then upstage it to "neutral" ;) [08:47] cut [08:47] cut [08:47] And Sense and Sensibility, and Emma, and various other books [08:47] Guido - doesn't make it funny [08:47] Ah, books I don't read, or seen televised versions of them. [08:48] I don't either [08:48] You know the film Clueless? [08:48] Oh, so she's the b*** that gave us that uberboring sense and knocks-you-senseless-by-being-boring :-) [08:48] Nope [08:48] She is indeed [08:48] Oh, well it's a modern version of Emma [08:48] don't like her already :-) [08:48] 4cut [08:49] 7It has all their favorite TOPICS: insanity, killing, and romance. [08:49] Cut [08:49] keep [08:49] keep [08:49] cut [08:49] cut [08:49] cut [08:49] cut [08:49] 4this is not our favourite topic [08:50] 7You should see their VERSIONS of Jane Austen. [08:50] keep [08:50] Althought she did give us the wonderful line "It is a truth universally acknowledged, that a single man in. possession of a" [08:50] Gah [08:50] "It is a truth universally acknowledged, that a single man in possession of a good fortune, must be in want of a wife." [08:50] and she inspired the "blackadder 3" episode titles ;) [08:50] keep [08:50] like I said, tripe :-) [08:50] cut [08:50] Keep [08:50] cut [08:50] *Has mental picture of Star Trek fights under the soundtrack of Mortal Kombat, random thought* [08:50] Klingon Jane Austen would be So Good :0D [08:51] cut [08:51] cut [08:51] 4noone will see klingon jane austen [08:51] 12only one line survived: 3Everybody always DIES... [08:52] oh, the irony [08:52] all the other lines died [08:52] lol [08:52] inspector? by process of deduction, we have found the killer... [08:52] 12Final competition: How to beat a dragon [08:52] damnit, still not seen this toon - page won't reload [08:52] 7I was going to use the invisibility CLOAK, but I can't find it. [08:52] neutral [08:52] cut [08:52] cut [08:53] cut [08:53] image line to toon, anyone? [08:53] link* [08:53] http://cartoons.sev.com.au/archivepage.php?cartoonid=ss82 [08:53] ty [08:53] "Hairy, have you figured out how to beat the dragon ?" [08:53] Strange, the Goblet of Fire is a PG13 movie, yet it STILL gets dubbed here for the little children. [08:53] Cut [08:53] sorry, http://cartoons.sev.com.au/archives/ss82.jpg [08:53] keep [08:53] both work, thanks :) [08:53] Having seen it, I can definitely understand the rating [08:53] keep [08:54] DS - does that mean u13s can't see it at all? [08:54] 4not found funny enough [08:54] Oh they can, as long as there are parents around. [08:54] 7Yeah, i just need to CONJURE up a fire extinguisher!!! [08:54] 'cos here it's 12A, but that just means there's an advisory warning and they should be accompanied [08:54] cut [08:54] cut [08:54] Then they still need the dubbing... [08:54] Cut [08:55] cut [08:55] Most if not all PG13 flicks are not dubbed here. [08:55] cut [08:55] keep [08:55] But Harry Potter is going to be seen by some fairly young children I am sure [08:55] 4the spell failed [08:56] 7I take it you're not willing to help out by acting as a DECOY? [08:56] cut [08:56] Cut [08:56] cut [08:56] cut [08:56] I think if this trend follows, the last film for HP will be PG16 or higher. [08:56] cut [08:56] cut [08:56] I dunno [08:56] DOggy: with their habit of new directors for each film, they'll probably get Peter Jackson to do #7 and it'll be rated M [08:56] I don't think the books get *that* much darker [08:57] JC: look on the bright side [08:57] keep [08:57] #7 will have beautiful landscapes :-) [08:57] Yes, but HP is no longer for little children. [08:57] Ugh, not Peter Jackson please [08:57] 4not willing as well [08:57] There should be no dinosaurs in Harry Potter :0P [08:57] 7Besides DROPPING out of Hogwarts? [08:57] keep [08:57] keep [08:57] I hate Peter Jackson. How could they ever think of him to do LotR in the first place? [08:57] cut [08:57] cut [08:57] cut [08:57] Blasphemy ! [08:58] DS - so? I still don't think, having read books 5 and 6, that they are that much darker than film 4. OBviously 7 is yet an unknown quantity... [08:58] if you prefer a bad cartoon [08:58] keep [08:58] has anyone seen "One of our dinosaurs is missing"? [08:58] No. [08:58] No [08:58] Did they find it playing with King Kong? [08:58] 7not dropped out yet... [08:59] 7Time-travel and EGGS for breakfast! [08:59] pah, you've all been deprived, it's a brilliant film [08:59] cut [08:59] made before Disney started producing crap [08:59] EofS: IMHO no movies should be dubbed. [08:59] so needless to say, it's in black and white [08:59] cut [08:59] cut [08:59] emma: you know that king kong fought with a dinosaur in the original king kong? [08:59] cut [08:59] keep [09:00] He did? No one ever mentions that bit... [09:00] DS - I don't entirely disagree with that statement. However, with young children (and as provision for the partially sighted/blind) I think it has its uses [09:00] Oh yes, Kong definately kicked T-Rexes butt in the original. [09:00] 4cut [09:00] 7I like Malfoy's IDEA... toss him over! [09:01] keep [09:01] cut [09:01] My housemates always seem to watch DVDs with the French dub on [09:01] keep [09:01] (Actually, I've watched films with the French dub on in the past, it's a good way to learn *shrugs*) [09:01] keep [09:01] cut [09:02] For my 8th birthday we went to the cinema. But I forgot my glasses. And we had prebooked seats. So I could hardly see the screen :0( Good job that wasn't a subtitled film... [09:02] 3the idea is liked [09:03] 7Quick! Jump into its MOUTH! [09:03] keep [09:03] cut [09:03] Cut [09:03] cut [09:03] EofS: Dubbing usually looses a lot of subtle humour or references. With subtitles you get the same problem, but if you understand the language not all is lost. [09:03] keep [09:03] keep [09:03] 7kept for now [09:04] Yes, but not everyone can understand every language [09:04] 7They can only see you when you MOVE... or is that dinosaurs? [09:04] Ie, we're not all Dutch [09:04] cut [09:04] keep [09:04] with dubbing, you keep the original voices [09:04] And I would rather be able to broaden my horizons by watching foreign, subtitled, films, than be stuck with only UK/US/Aus films [09:04] keep [09:04] ever heard the French voice for Schwartzenegger ? [09:04] Cut [09:04] Yes, but dubbing has also one nasty habit of ruining the actors performance. [09:04] keep (dinosaurs!) [09:05] Funnily enough, no [09:05] The French don't even know what he really sounds like [09:05] keep [09:05] One thing I've learnt about dubbing is that americans should not be allowed to dub anything. Ever. [09:05] The Germans don' [09:05] DS - I'm not denying that! [09:05] cut [09:05] The Germans dont either.' [09:05] 3kept [09:05] 7I said to distract the dragon, NOT ME! [09:05] keep [09:05] keep [09:06] keep [09:06] keep [09:06] keep [09:06] You *couldn't* dub in Finland [09:06] 3not distracted [09:06] 7Well, I was going for the sneaky and QUIET approach! Thanks for the help! [09:06] cut [09:07] cut [09:07] cut [09:07] cut [09:07] cut [09:07] hmm, probably too long in hindsight [09:07] Best example of dubbing ruining a movie; Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon. (Or any othe asian movie that is dubbed) Serious movies SURELY should not be dubbed. [09:07] cut [09:08] Cut [09:08] 4sneakily and quitely dropping this line [09:08] Doggy: at least in the case of crouching tiger, it was dubbed by the same actors [09:08] Yeah. Especially if they have actors that sound like they were in 50's western movies doing the voices. [09:08] 7What? You can SEE me? I'd better run... [09:08] cut [09:08] keep [09:08] cut [09:08] cut [09:08] DS - do you never listen to a film instead of watching it? [09:08] I'd probably change the end of this line to "oh oh..." [09:08] JC: Not all the actors. [09:09] anybody heard about the sony rootkit fiasco ? [09:09] Doggy: well, the main couple [09:09] Cut [09:09] I love that movie [09:09] Thomas - yup [09:09] EofS :What do you mean ? [09:09] Yeah. [09:09] well, turns out the rootkit code was in part stolen from an open source project [09:09] DS - ie not look at the screen [09:09] Well, there is something worse than the Sony rootkit coming... [09:09] I experience every movie in it's completeness. [09:09] Thomas - there's some of DVD Jon's code in there, or is that what you mean? [09:10] 4the line runs away as well... [09:10] http://www.againsttcpa.com/index.shtml <-Everyone should read that. [09:10] i read they found parts of an open source mp3 player called "lame" in the code [09:10] 7It's called a STARING contest! [09:10] keep [09:10] cut (he should look at the dragon to make it work) [09:10] http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,1888877,00.asp [09:10] seems the lame stuff they found was only string tables and not actual code though [09:10] cut [09:10] But you are not the only filmwatcher in the universe. I am sure I am not alone in sometimes enjoying films, particularly ones I know well, without actually looking at the screen. When laying in bed for example, or if I'm ill and can't wear my glasses (rendering me blind) [09:11] (plus, it was a UK company (go us!) not sony that made the rootkit) [09:11] cut [09:11] Then there are people who struggle to read fast enough for subtitles [09:11] E: it's training [09:12] in belgium, only 7 year olds complain about subtitles being too fast :-) [09:12] I myself can actually still easily read them when the vcr is fforwarding at 3x speed [09:12] (My best friend growing up will probably likely never be able to read subtitles, as he's unlikely to ever overcome his severe dyslexia) [09:12] 4lost the staring contect [09:12] 7Yes. TRANSFER to another school. [09:12] cut [09:13] cut [09:13] cut [09:13] cut [09:13] keep [09:13] Yes, okay, so dyslectic people have the most benifits of dubbing. But there are more with hearing problems then there are dyslectics. [09:13] So dyslexics matter less? [09:13] cut [09:14] How do people with sight problems compare with people with hearing problems? [09:14] 4transferred away [09:14] If we're going to establish a hierarchy of privilege when it comes to enjoying films [09:14] 7Throw my WAND and say "fetch?" [09:14] keep [09:14] keep [09:14] i like this one [09:14] simple, clever [09:14] the needs of the many and the few... [09:14] Keep [09:14] keep [09:15] keep [09:15] keep [09:15] cut [09:15] What on earth is wrong with supplying a dub and a sub, particularly with the flexibility of DVDs, so that *everyone* is happy [09:15] don't forget, over here subtitles are starting to be considered a compromise, as most youth know english and rather view a film without annoying text [09:15] 3kept [09:15] in our case: no cash or equipment [09:15] we specialized in subtitles and the industry followed [09:16] 12Vote4 one of the following 6 lines: [09:16] Besides DROPPING out of Hogwarts? [09:16] I like Malfoy's IDEA... toss him over! [09:16] Quick! Jump into its MOUTH! [09:16] They can only see you when you MOVE... or is that dinosaurs? [09:16] I said to distract the dragon, NOT ME! [09:16] Throw my WAND and say "fetch?" [09:16] vote4 fetch [09:16] vote4 idea [09:16] I don't want to sound hard for people with vision and hearing disabilities. [09:16] vote4 wand [09:16] (that was meant wand) [09:16] vote4 wand [09:16] vote4 not me [09:16] vote4 move [09:16] emma? [09:17] vote4 wand [09:17] changevote2 wand [09:18] 12Final result: 4IDEA: 112 -- 4NOT ME: 112 -- 3WAND: 5 [09:18] wand wins (cool) [09:19] many thanx Wizz for running the JS [09:19] np [09:19] *Looks at clock* Hmm, pretty long one. [09:19] right, I'm out - night guys [09:19] 1 hour 20 minutes [09:20] BYeeeeeeeeeeeeeee [09:20] bye all and thanx for judging Session Close: Sat Nov 19 09:20:35 2005