Session Start: Sat Mar 31 08:05:47 2007 Session Ident: #sevtrek [08:09] 6starting the LOTR cartoon [08:09] 6You think the AUDIENCE wants to watch peace? [08:09] no, sorry, it still point to my webhost - they just have another IP address ;) [08:09] keep [08:09] keep [08:09] keep [08:09] Ack... BRB... Gotta reload paper. [08:10] Neutral [08:10] cut [08:10] cut [08:10] 3AUDIENCE stays [08:10] 6If you find a BETTER way to vanquish the bad guys, I'd like to hear it. [08:11] cut [08:11] cut [08:11] Cut [08:11] cut [08:11] at the risk of nagging [08:11] the finalists page has been loading for 2 minutes now and i only have the top bit [08:11] which looks good, i might add [08:11] * AdmiralMemo is back [08:11] yay! now i can see all the pictures. [08:11] Toner, actually [08:11] keep [08:12] 4BETTER is worse [08:12] 6What is this, a CHICK flick? Hero up! [08:12] toner? ink? [08:12] omg, travolta's asleep on the dude from the office's lap [08:12] Yeah. Looks good. [08:12] Cut [08:12] cut [08:12] keep [08:12] cut [08:12] cut [08:12] cut [08:12] 4CHICK is flicked [08:12] 6To CULL the people who ask too many annoying questions. [08:12] I used to joke that one day I would get an out of staples error on the photocopier [08:12] Yeah. I work at a print shop, if nobody realized. I'm still at work. [08:12] Let me tell you, I wasn't laughing when it happened :0P [08:12] Cut [08:13] cut [08:13] Memo: what if you get caught? [08:13] The boss left about 10 minutes ago. [08:13] I'm the only one left. [08:13] cut [08:13] We pretend we want to order something from him [08:13] so you're there by yourself? [08:13] heh [08:13] print sev cartoons! [08:13] Frankly there are worse things you could be caught doing whilst at work alone ;0) [08:13] let us know if he comes back - we'll all talk about toner and paper types [08:13] Yep. Gotta wait 2 more hours until the drawings come in from California. [08:13] I can bitch about de-paperjamming the copier [08:14] cut [08:14] yes about paper, apparently they want to stick 75 grams per square meter paper into the market here... [08:14] 4CULL is culled [08:14] 6He who DIES with the most land, wins. [08:14] cut [08:14] neutral [08:14] cut [08:14] cut [08:14] cut [08:14] Cut [08:14] 4DIES dies [08:14] 6Not everyone can settle by EATING-contests! [08:14] Well, talk about AMERICAN sizes and weights of paper. [08:14] keep [08:14] cut [08:14] well your legal formats suck [08:14] I have a legal pad somewhere [08:14] A4 is easier to work with [08:14] cut [08:14] It's lellow and everything [08:14] cut [08:15] Lellow? [08:15] It made me stupidly excited [08:15] :-D [08:15] Yellow :0p [08:15] Cut [08:15] cut [08:15] 4EATING is starved [08:15] Ah... Sure... [08:15] 6Without them, EPIC movies would only be 20 minutes long! [08:15] keep [08:15] keep [08:15] keep [08:15] And the printer hasn't started up yet... [08:15] keep [08:15] BRB [08:15] Neutral [08:15] 3EPIC goes on and on and on [08:15] 6It's a good EXCUSE for men to get out of the house for a while. [08:15] cut [08:15] * AdmiralMemo back [08:15] cut [08:15] "Without them epic movies would be epic short films" [08:15] keep [08:15] Keep [08:16] keep [08:16] (Or "epic shorts" but I dunno if "shorts" really means that to the layperson) [08:16] Probably not [08:16] Yeah [08:16] epic shorts: costuming LotR [08:16] Thought not [08:16] So, "epic short films" [08:16] cut [08:17] Emma: it's a good suggestion but I think I prefer the original wording [08:17] Pfft [08:17] And we work with blueprints and stuff, so it'd be more along your A1 and A0 sizes. [08:17] And larger [08:17] And of course, right after it runs out of toner, it runs out of paper... [08:18] 3EXCUSE is kept [08:18] 6To justify the EXPENSE of our standing army! [08:18] cut [08:18] keep [08:18] you should print it on all A4 and simply state "it's the new standard" [08:18] Keep [08:18] keep [08:18] keep [08:18] I wonder how many 1984 lines were entered [08:19] not that many [08:19] keep [08:19] Memo - just watch for it, the staples will be next :0P [08:19] 3EXPENSE is spared [08:19] 6Because no one has FOUND how to stop it. [08:19] The plotter doesn't auto-staple [08:19] cut [08:19] neutral [08:19] Then it will definitely be out of staples [08:19] It was never in of staples [08:19] Cut [08:19] i presume it's an inkjet printer - they still call it a plotter even though it is simply an inkjet printer [08:19] Exactly [08:20] cut [08:20] cut [08:20] Well, it's a printer. Like a large laser printer [08:20] 4FOUND is lost [08:20] 6The grass is always GREENER on the other side of the border. [08:20] cut [08:20] cut [08:20] 22 sheets 30" X 42" per minute [08:20] Cut [08:20] cut [08:20] keep [08:20] that's big. [08:20] And fast [08:20] How many papercuts a day? ;0) [08:20] stick your fingers in it ;) [08:21] 4GREENER is pastured (hmm, best I could do at short notice) [08:21] 6To save LIVES! [08:21] cut [08:21] cut [08:21] keep [08:21] We have an ample supply of band-aids [08:21] cut [08:21] Keep [08:21] i suggest something very simple [08:21] cut [08:21] GLOVES [08:21] But we do have many rubber fingers [08:21] My mother got an infected papercut [08:21] that really sucks [08:21] No... It's hard to jog the paper with gloves on. [08:21] The person at the walk-in centre asked what kind of paper it was on [08:21] She wasn't highly amused [08:22] 4LIVES is cut [08:22] I wouldn't doubt it. [08:22] 6That's when the best background MUSIC is played [08:22] cut [08:22] neutral [08:22] I got a papercut on courogated cardboard at work once. That hurt a surprising amount (No I can't spell) [08:22] Keep [08:22] keep [08:22] It's funny because it's true [08:22] keep [08:22] Well, we have different statuses of cuts... Paper cut is at the bottom [08:22] keep [08:22] Then you get vellum cut [08:22] Mylar cut [08:23] Cardboard cut... [08:23] And worst of all... [08:23] Acco cut [08:23] 3MUSIC plays on [08:23] 6It's a shorter and more glorious PATH to the inevitable. [08:23] cut [08:23] that's nothing [08:23] Cut [08:23] try windows cut and paste [08:23] it can kill your pc. [08:23] cut [08:23] cut [08:23] Oh god, we had a forum post asking if we knew how to paste images [08:23] LOL [08:23] On asking "paste images... in what program?" [08:24] We got "on the internet, silly!" [08:24] 4PATH ends [08:24] 6Apparently, PEACE and prosperity are boring. [08:24] :D [08:24] keep [08:24] cut [08:24] Neutral [08:24] cut [08:24] keep [08:25] 3we gave PEACE a chance [08:25] 6you are not going to give me that "No blood for PIPEWEED" nonsense... [08:25] cut [08:25] cut [08:25] cut [08:25] cut [08:25] mm soft plushy pussycat in my arms [08:26] cut [08:26] 4PIPEWEED is smoked [08:26] 6The better question is: why can't we do anything to PREVENT it? [08:26] cut [08:26] cut [08:27] cut [08:27] cut [08:27] 4PREVENT is cut [08:27] 6War is the STUFF Blockbusters are made of [08:27] cut [08:27] cut [08:27] keep [08:28] keep [08:28] 3STUFF is kept [08:29] in a box [08:29] Well, it's good to keep stuff. [08:29] 6okay, moving onto vote4 stage - 6 finalists to choose from... [08:29] You think the AUDIENCE wants to watch peace? [08:29] Without them, EPIC movies would only be 20 minutes long! [08:29] It's a good EXCUSE for men to get out of the house for a while. [08:29] To justify the EXPENSE of our standing army! [08:29] That's when the best background MUSIC is played [08:29] War is the STUFF Blockbusters are made of [08:29] do you have the stuff? [08:29] Until your room is overrun with stuff. [08:29] 6okay, vote4... [08:29] vote4 music [08:29] vote4 music [08:29] vote4 expense [08:29] vote4 epic [08:30] i hate the punchlines that refer to the outside world so obviously [08:30] i prefer the punchline to work in the universe that the movie works in [08:30] Which is why I chose what I did. [08:30] nova: in this case, it's deliberate though - that's the point of the toon [08:30] vote4 music [08:30] yes well i did vote for the music one [08:31] 6final tally: music 3 expense 1 epic 1 [08:31] you mean middle earth doesn't have loud music coming from the sky in battles? [08:31] I'll vote in a mo [08:31] i'm glad that one works [08:31] the music one [08:31] ah okay. [08:31] meep [08:31] while we're waiting for Emma, can I ask something? [08:31] Any of you guys Digg users? [08:31] No [08:31] no, sorry. [08:32] YTou ca'task [08:32] Emma: vote? [08:32] No [08:32] No :0P [08:32] Minute [08:32] I follow it most of the time, John [08:32] but I don't digg [08:32] nope [08:32] never used digg [08:33] No digging here [08:33] except if i get forwarded by the register or wired or similar [08:33] miguel - do you have a login account or you just casually browse [08:33] Nova: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diegesis [08:33] John - yes ;) [08:33] Nova: That's the type of punchline you're looking for? [08:33] (both - I have a login for some reason, but I really only ever load the frontpage once, maybe twice a day and pick out some interesting parts) [08:33] ok, can I ask a favour then? Could you digg the LOTR toon after I post the winner (in a few minutes)? I'm trying an experiment on getting a cartoon into Digg [08:34] AdmiralMemo: haven't read through it all, a bit busy here [08:34] Miguel: There'll be a digg link on the cartoon page [08:34] are you sure your server can handle it John? [08:34] I thought bandwidth was still something to be wary of, although not an imminent problem [08:34] miguel: don't know [08:34] Miguel, JC; the server is responding very slowly already. a full minute for a page is normal atm for me. [08:35] not for all pages though, but most php intense pages. [08:35] Nova: No prob. Take your time. [08:35] I totally don't expect to get the cartoon on the digg homepage - that requires hundreds of Diggs - but just want to see what happens [08:35] nova: a full minute? Nasty! [08:35] I'm going once this toon's done though, so I'll digg it another time [08:35] tomorrow [08:36] I am going to try honing my code, see if I can sharpen it up as well as get the hosting working better [08:36] JC: it fluctuates wildly. some days it'll be lightning fast, the other it'll be like a turd crawling through a layer of dust in a dark damp hallway in the middle of winter. [08:36] maybe look into php caching, something like ... oh damn, Iäve forgotten the name [08:36] Johan, help? [08:36] Last call for vote4s... [08:37] Miguel: don't know what you mean, but, it's very easy to build PHP caching into your webpages with some mild coding adjustment [08:37] I don't even know what PHP caching is so obviously I have a lot to learn :-) [08:38] right, it's now definitely my bed time [08:38] night, all [08:38] * Miguel has quit IRC (Disintegrated: boom) [08:38] JC: well a simple example is the finalists page; you select the finalist punchlines and when you hit the button to confirm "yes, this is the finalists list" you tell the script to generate a simple .html page and link to that when people need to look at the finalists page. this way, php won't be called upon each time the finalists page is opened, but simply the html page. [08:39] and whenever a change is made to the finalists list, you wipe the html page and write it anew [08:39] oh right, like what I do with the news in the left margin - that's not data driven but updated everytime I add new news [08:39] yeah it can help to keep things easier on the server, PHP processing-wise [08:39] hmm, I could do that with the finalist page and On This Day pages - both not updated too often [08:39] simply because everytime a PHP page is called upon, a PHP process is spawned. [08:40] sorry, back to the JS [08:40] also, there are server techniques where PHP is run, then keeps running for a while, processing multiple pages in one go [08:40] ah yes [08:40] where were we [08:40] 6music wins unless Emma votes otherwise to muddy the waters [08:40] 6moving onto Twist cartoon (you all should reload as I culled the punchlines) [08:40] music! :-D [08:41] 6Doesn't "old AGE" do the same thing? [08:41] keep [08:41] cut [08:41] my parents both smoke, and when i spend more than a few hours there, my airways starts to physically hurt. [08:41] cut [08:42] cut [08:42] also, i get a headache that will last for hours. [08:42] 4AGE is cut [08:42] 6Well, at least I don't have to worry about ATHLETES foot! [08:42] cut [08:42] brb [08:42] My dad smokes in the car. That's the worst I get, but it's pretty bad. However, it used to be worse with my dad and maternal grandpa smoking cigs and my other grandpa smoking pipes. [08:43] keep [08:43] cut [08:43] aah, the smell of a good cigar :-) [08:43] keep [08:43] cigs = cigarettes [08:44] * AdmiralMemo didn't want to type it all out because the pile was filling up and had to move it. [08:44] 3athletes are kept [08:44] 6It's not just cool... it's BRAVE! [08:44] keep [08:44] cut [08:44] ugh, cigarettes [08:44] cut [08:44] I hate the things. [08:45] yeah, they sting my contacts [08:45] * AdmiralMemo changes topic to '#sevtrek That's so two hours ago, JC' [08:45] keep [08:45] Heh... It worked. [08:45] hey, how many judges to we have now? [08:45] 2,4? [08:45] Keep [08:46] all judges say aye [08:46] i think 5 [08:46] Aye [08:46] Me, Thomas, Nova, Emma, You [08:46] aye [08:46] aye [08:46] Aye [08:47] ok, wsa just getting 4 votes each time [08:47] Dhraak and 5618 haven't said a thing since I got here. [08:47] yeah they're dead [08:47] never mind, got 5 last time, moving on [08:47] emma was away for a bit, i think [08:47] So that's it. [08:47] * AdmiralMemo will BRB again [08:47] yes, that is the smell that penetrates the channel [08:47] 3BRAVE is kept [08:47] 6I've wasted half my cigarette BREAK trying to read this. [08:47] Paper's out again. [08:47] keep [08:47] keep [08:47] keep [08:47] cut [08:48] 3BREAK is kept [08:48] 6Smoking always CALMS my nerves after reading these lists... [08:48] keep [08:48] keep [08:49] cut [08:49] Keep [08:49] lol [08:49] Right, with you again now [08:49] Incidentally, I would have voted for music I think [08:49] cut [08:49] * AdmiralMemo is back [08:49] 3CALMS is kept [08:49] 6They missed "COOLNESS". [08:49] cut [08:49] So that doesn't really change things [08:49] cut [08:50] Cut [08:50] cut [08:50] cut [08:50] 4COOLNESS is cut [08:50] 6A pack a DAY keeps old age away. [08:50] keep [08:50] keep [08:50] I'm procrastinating binding these sets... This thing's going to be a few feet high by the time I start binding. [08:50] cut [08:51] keep [08:51] But I'll still have to wait until 8 PM EDT before I get any of the drawings in that I'm waiting for. [08:51] 4DAY is kept [08:51] Cut [08:51] 6Heh, good thing it also causes DENIAL. [08:51] keep [08:51] keep [08:51] Keep [08:51] Though I think "fortunately it also causes denial" is much better wording [08:52] "I can quit at any time!" :-D [08:52] that's "delusion" [08:52] Or even without a word in the front. Start with "Good" [08:52] And to answer the question, I don't use digg [08:52] cut [08:52] I don't have much use for the social networking side of web 2.0 [08:52] Emma: agree with removing 'heh' although I'm sorry to say again I like the original wording :-) [08:53] keep [08:53] Yeah, well, you smell and you suck at cricket :0P [08:53] it reads like spoken english - not as 'correct' but how people would say it [08:53]